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Mar 11, 2010

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Naum

Which Christians?

Names, quotes, titles (and today, links) so readers can see for themselves?

These are not the habits of a serious critic who wants to engage with people who are wrong.

Otherwise, it's a nebulous "them" or "they".

From my vantage point, I observe the same criticisms of "empire" and how the new administration is mostly "meet the new boss, same as the old boss"…

Michael W. Kruse

"From my vantage point, I observe the same criticisms of "empire" and how the new administration is mostly "meet the new boss, same as the old boss"…"

Then you are fully aware that people are using the metaphor of empire and there is no need to provide you with links. My point is that the left has not been using the same critique of "Empire" against Obama. It makes no difference that they are truly unhappy with Obama. The issue is whether or not the Empire critique is being used. I can't provide you with links to absence of something.

Michael W. Kruse

Naum. Your last post was accidentally deleted. You Wrote:

"No, the point is that you made a claim ("left has mot been using the same critique") without any substantive evidence and/or sources supporting it.

OTOH, a simple google search will show you just about all progressives and "the left" gnashing their teeth over Obama's failure to turn the course in this regard. Or lamenting his sellout and kowtowing to corporate interests.

Even the Democratic loyalists accept that Obama has not done right in this regard, yet they merely champion him as a lesser evil/or not moving fast enough in that regard.

So, in other words, you threw out a false equivalency, borne out with no facts, sources, links, etc.…"

To which I respond:

“No, the point is that you made a claim ("left has mot been using the same critique") without any substantive evidence and/or sources supporting it.”

Nice parsing. What I wrote was:

“…left has not been using the same critique of "Empire" against Obama.”

The issue addressed by this post is not whether or not the left is critical of Obama. The issue is whether they use the Empire metaphor to critique Obama.

I’ve lost patience. All further posts you make at this blog will be made under your actual name linked to a website that publically identifies who you are so you can take public responsibility for your comments. The name “Naum” is now blocked.

Chuck

I fear that too many Americans have lost sight of how we as a nation are surely on the slide toward tyranny. This is not a Republican vs Democrat issue. It's an American issue, and we had better wake up to the fact that we are at a crossroad as a nation. Will we continue down the road toward the "nanny state" and tyranny, or will we rescue our Republic with her limited government, maximum freedom, and personal responsibility? The answer to that question is itself seriously in question.

Michael W. Kruse

Chuck it seems to me that we go through a period of national rediscovery about every eighty years ... roughly four generations. 1770s-1780s was the founding of the nation. 1860s was dealing with issues of federalism. 1930s was a period of sorting our response to being an industrialized economy. It seems know we are struggling to define our role in a globalized post-industrial world. Unfortunately, the consensus in each era came only at the end of highly rancorous division. I think its going to get worse before it gets better ... but I think it will get better.

Travis Greene

I haven't found this to be true, but then I do hang out with a lot of Anabaptisty types. I'm sure there are many who have stopped using the language of empire as much.

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