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Aug 02, 2011

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ceemac

From the article: The unconstrained opportunity for individuals to create value for society—and the fact that their income reflects the value they create—encourages innovation and entrepreneurship.

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Have you ever noticed that one place where this is not true is the church. How many creative value creating folks do you know who part in full time plus hrs in "part-time" positions in the church?

ceemac

that should be "put in" not "part in"

Michael W. Kruse

Yes. It is always an interesting to hear the reasoning behind what should or should not be compensated in church circles. Is a congregation more like a family that operates on a different calculus than market considerations or should services provided to congregation be thought of more like market transactions? Should some services be treated one way and other services another? Probably has a lot to do with how we understand what it means to be a congregation.

ceemac

That's an interesting angle.

However I had more in mind the attitude that "there is no such thing as part time work in the church." It's an attitude that seems to be accepted by most and actively embraced by many who work in the church.

So folks accept part positions knowing full well that they will wind up putting in "full time plus" hours.

A similar comment I heard from an late middle age candidate for the ministry a few weeks back: You never really retire from the ministry. Of course that is good theology is one sense. But they way it was meant was more along the lines of ministers who retire to the lake were probably never really "called" by God. If you were truly called you would be preaching as long as you are able. Even if they can't afford to pay you.

This is a long way of saying that I imagine it would be hard for a 3/4 pastor who has just put in a series of 60 hr weeks (or a half time w/o benefits DCE who has just done the same) resonating with the idea that in the business world one would not engage in innovation and entrepreneurship unless the price is right.

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