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Nov 12, 2007


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Nathan Stephens

I find your comments on Brian McLaren almost humorous when I see Amazon advertising on your page for his book Everything Must Change. Perhaps what Brian does isn't heresy as people judge him, but that God has laid it on his heart that there is a time of hope for the future beyond their spiritual death in Heaven. Heaven on Earth is a worthwhile thing to attempt regardless if it is a gray area for Christians. Don’t you ever get tired of the multitudes who say that ends times are coming soon? The end times have always been coming soon. This doesn’t justify raping the earth in the meantime.

Matthew 24:
34I tell you the truth, this generation[e] will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. 35Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

What kind of testament is it to people for Christians to rape the earth then tell others how amazing Jesus is. I love Jesus and God, but I think Brian offers a message of hope for the earth and in heaven. And if you can find passages in the Bible to dispute him I'd like to see that. We Christians are the biggest hypocrites as we destroy the earth and preach repentance.

Matthew 24:
36"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,[f] but only the Father.

Michael W. Kruse

Hi there Nathan. The Amazon listing you see is of the five most recent books I've read. I read all sorts of stuff I may or may not agree with.

There are more than two perspectives: "Destroy the earth and preach repentance" vs Brian McLaren's view. I subscribe to neither of these. I believe McLaren has some good contirubtions in the book toward framing issues but he does not truly engage scripture in developing the book. He proof-texts. I believe he is way off the mark and his analysis of many current problems is just flat in error. I'm going to get around to reviewing this book eventually but I can't say enough how surprised and disappointed I am with the quality of this book.

Nathan Stephens

I appreciate your response. And I certainly would be interested to read your review of Everything Must Change. I think Brian has some very challenging things for Christians to say. I want to be careful not to judge you,
(1"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
3"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye. MATTHEW 7:1-5
) but I'd be interested to know what you think the Bible says about the environment.

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